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Post by Brenticon on Jan 5, 2016 22:10:49 GMT -8
so, rumour has it, early bay spindles can be reversed to lower front end .... Heard it a while back, and Darren told me it again ..... Is there anything else I'd need to do ??
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Jan 6, 2016 16:25:24 GMT -8
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Post by CrazyBrit on Jan 6, 2016 16:25:24 GMT -8
If they're the same as Split bus ones you'll end up 3 1/2" lower. I found this to be too low for me. The split ones can be flipped, but they need a professional machine shop to do the work. Are they king and link pin?
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Jan 6, 2016 16:31:00 GMT -8
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Post by CrazyBrit on Jan 6, 2016 16:31:00 GMT -8
Another thought on this is to check if flipping them will affect your track width. I think the Splitty ones push the wheels out 1/4" or thereabouts. Again, not sure about Bays, but worth checking.
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Post by PICTUP on Jan 6, 2016 17:02:59 GMT -8
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Post by Brenticon on Jan 6, 2016 18:54:33 GMT -8
I flipped thru that link the other day, but I'll have to dig deeper. Can't see anyone talking about flipping spindles, only bugs, lol. Mark might be in to something, only kingpins, hmmm. Oh well, better order the proper ones .... thanks boys!
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Post by CrazyBrit on Jan 6, 2016 20:47:55 GMT -8
Have you tried forum.earlybay.com/ ? This is a UK based site dedicated to the Early "lowlight" Bays. With the popularity of buses back in the old country there will likely be something in this site. If not, you could always ask.
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Post by Wongai on Jan 7, 2016 12:06:15 GMT -8
I'm stoked to see your bus get the drop. Looking forward to doing mine too. As I mentioned in another thread, the crap parts I used for dropping my bug caused a lot of pain. I would recommend www.airkewld.com for all your lowering needs. Awesome parts and good guys to deal with.
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Post by PICTUP on Jan 7, 2016 23:04:40 GMT -8
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Post by Brenticon on Jan 8, 2016 8:52:28 GMT -8
Wow, and torsion tubes? Most drop spindles list for $350-500 and don't even mention them whats the benefit? Hmmmm? Maybe it's early, but what does "keep my brakes" mean
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Post by Wongai on Jan 8, 2016 9:39:06 GMT -8
I too thought Airkewld made their own stuff, but when I called them to get the specs on the spindles for my bug, they did not have any. At that point it became clear that they are not making everything they sell. I told them I would pay the big bucks but only under the condition that he would take them back if my problem was not solved.
The answer your question Brent, "what's the benefit?". Quality and correctness. My bug would probably be finished by now if I didn't spend so much time trying to figure out what was wrong with my camber. Getting rid of CIP parts solved my problem instantly. I should also mention that their stuff looks cool and the finish is killer.
My two cents! B
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Jan 8, 2016 11:08:49 GMT -8
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Post by CrazyBrit on Jan 8, 2016 11:08:49 GMT -8
I have a set of their BAD discs on the front of my bus and the quality is fantastic. When I bought them they assured me that they would fit with the original wheels though, and they definitely do not! They have now updated their website to reflect this. I am otherwise very pleased with the brakes.
Brent, have you tried looking at any of the UK websites? They are crazy about low buses over there, so there should be some good info online and some nice products available. I'm quite familiar with the Split Bus companies (Machine 7, T2D, Creative Engineering) and there are some very nice components out there, but am not up on Bays. The early Bays like yours are really popular there right now. The only problem with UK components is the exchange rate!
My advice with lowering, is buy the best you can afford. Some of the cheaper home brewed methods can be a bit of a nightmare (from experience!) and if you get it wrong, your vehicle can be unsafe and undriveable (again, from experience....)
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Post by Wongai on Jan 8, 2016 11:20:15 GMT -8
My advice with lowering, is buy the best you can afford. Some of the cheaper home brewed methods can be a bit of a nightmare (from experience!) and if you get it wrong, your vehicle can be unsafe and undriveable (again, from experience....) I concur! I tried to do it with cheap stuff and it was a huge drag. If you are getting close to making a purchase, let me know. Perhaps we can double up and save on shipping expenses. Being that I'm an FX trader, I can also save some bucks on the foreign exchange. PEACE! B
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Post by PICTUP on Jan 8, 2016 12:09:19 GMT -8
My advice with lowering, is buy the best you can afford. Some of the cheaper home brewed methods can be a bit of a nightmare (from experience!) and if you get it wrong, your vehicle can be unsafe and undriveable (again, from experience....) I concur! I tried to do it with cheap stuff and it was a huge drag. If you are getting close to making a purchase, let me know. Perhaps we can double up and save on shipping expenses. Being that I'm an FX trader, I can also save some bucks on the foreign exchange. PEACE! B X3! Learning from other people is what it is all about. Both Mark and Byron have seen more than their fair share of problems with parts they bought from CIP and elsewhere, regardless of price. It is so very hard to know, especially when some of your info has been right from the horse's mouth, so to speak, as Mark found out regarding his wheels. Nothing is worse than an exercise in frustration….so heeding their words is a good way to go Maybe it's early, but what does "keep my brakes" mean The ones CIP now carry are for late Bay only or, if put on an early, one needs to use the late Bay brakes(73-79), which in turn would change your bolt pattern. And quite possibly necessitate adding a brake booster. I am not sure on that latter bit. I am pretty sure they wouldn't be as effective without it though. If you were to change your bolt pattern up front, it would then have to be changed in the rear because you certainly wouldn't want to run mis-matched wheels, would you?
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Post by Brenticon on Jan 8, 2016 15:58:27 GMT -8
Dammit !!!!!!! I swore I read they'd work .....
Yea Mark, I glimpsed thru some articles in technical I believe. Gonna spend more time reading thru, as well as thesamba when I have a clearer mind. Right now work has been consuming my brain waves
Appreciate all you guys input, thanks
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Post by Brenticon on Jan 9, 2016 9:45:44 GMT -8
Haven't check overseas yet, but in Canada, I couldn't find squat. All 73 and later disc type spindles. Tried Geoff, AVR, and Cip1. I know I know, there's probably more in Canada, but hey, I'm trying. I did find these at Wagenswest though ..... www.wagenswest.com/partstore/index.php/bus-suspension/1968-79-spindles/1968-70-dropped-2-5-inch-drum-spindles.htmlDam exchange rate sucks, as well as the weather, so I'll wait and see if our dollar comes up with the tempatures. Focus Brent, Focus! On another note, picked up some funky 5 spoke empi's from Darren yesterday .... Maybe I'll focus on appearance, and clean this baby up before dropping it slightly Attachments:
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