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Post by Wongai on Oct 24, 2014 13:42:41 GMT -8
Hey folks, Still having terrible front camber issues on my bug. I've got a lot of advice from the Vic club and some of you guys have thrown out some ideas too, but nothing is working. I'm at the point where I need to just throw new spindles on the beast to see if that fixes the positive camber problem. It will be a very expensive experiment and I could be left with exactly the same issue. I'm wondering if any of you have some modern drop spindles I could borrow for a trial fit. I've got some stock ones, but my bearings don't fit and I'm not sure I consider the stock spindles to be a valid test as I intend to use drops. Here is a link to the Vic club thread. www.vvwc.ca/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10377Any help would be appreciated, I'm going crazy here! Thanks all. Byron |
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Post by mitchy965 on Oct 24, 2014 14:13:59 GMT -8
a dropped spindle has no effect on camber,it merely moves the spindle up the knuckle
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Post by Wongai on Oct 24, 2014 16:42:47 GMT -8
Thank you,
I'm aware of that, but I'm hoping to find a set that works, then buy the same set up.
Thanks.
b
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Post by mitchy965 on Oct 24, 2014 18:34:10 GMT -8
sorry wongai, i should have read the thread ,however,if its the spindle you want to test why not buy bearings that fit (cheaper,no?)use a stock spindle for the test and see what you get
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Post by Volktales on Oct 24, 2014 19:27:23 GMT -8
I have piles of ball joint spindles, but sadly no spare king and link spindles. I did the whole shim calculation thing on my Ghia, as my original spindles were shot and had to mix and match parts from a borrowed front end. I thought I had measured and calculated everything correctly but somehow ended up with everything a mirror image from what I needed. When I reversed the shim numbers everything was correct. You still likely have a poorly made beam or bent torsion arms. Comparing with another set of parts is the way to go.
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Post by rustybug61 on Oct 25, 2014 7:36:21 GMT -8
Looking at the 25th anniversary edition idiot book, pages 194-195, looks like there are a lot of places where something could be bent. Why shouldn't you use the shims to adjust camber? Isn't that what they're for?
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Post by stude on Oct 25, 2014 13:11:12 GMT -8
I have dropped drum drake spindles not yet on carrier you could use to compare also stock with king and links ready to go also trailing arms this bearing you speak of is it the ones for trailing arm if so what trailing arms do you have I wonder if there would be any difference between disk and drum spindles other than the drilled holes for the calipers.
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Post by Wongai on Oct 27, 2014 8:37:34 GMT -8
Looking at the 25th anniversary edition idiot book, pages 194-195, looks like there are a lot of places where something could be bent. Why shouldn't you use the shims to adjust camber? Isn't that what they're for? The shims are only there to adjust for the offset of the arms. Camber is not adjustable on these bad boys...unfortunately. Regarding the idea about bent parts, all this stuff is zero miles brand new. Thanks for the reply! Byron |
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Post by Wongai on Oct 27, 2014 8:39:54 GMT -8
sorry wongai, i should have read the thread ,however,if its the spindle you want to test why not buy bearings that fit (cheaper,no?)use a stock spindle for the test and see what you get No hangs, I think you might be right. That's a lot cheaper than new spindles. Then I'll have a second set for one of you guys to use as back-ups. Might have to try this approach. Thanks again Mitchy! |
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Post by Wongai on Oct 27, 2014 8:42:08 GMT -8
I have piles of ball joint spindles, but sadly no spare king and link spindles. I did the whole shim calculation thing on my Ghia, as my original spindles were shot and had to mix and match parts from a borrowed front end. I thought I had measured and calculated everything correctly but somehow ended up with everything a mirror image from what I needed. When I reversed the shim numbers everything was correct. You still likely have a poorly made beam or bent torsion arms. Comparing with another set of parts is the way to go. Thanks for backing the plan. Now I just have to get my a$$ in gear and stop putting it off. PS...I'd rather have a Ghia with a camber issue than a bug with no problems. I'll start mixing and matching and I'll let y'all know! Thanks again! Byron |
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Post by WiFli on Oct 27, 2014 19:48:02 GMT -8
Hey Man...
Ok... Here's my 2 cents for the day... True, new parts all round. However it maybe worth noting that after adding the proper number of shims "all round", we still ended up with what looked to be approximately the same amount of positive camber on both sides... (Eye ball estimate only..). This taken into account; what is the likely hood that the beam itself was originally fabricated out of alignment....?? This headache may be the result of a manufacturer's quality control issue...!! Just say'n. It would be interesting to know where this setup came from..!?
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Post by mitchy965 on Dec 10, 2014 13:51:42 GMT -8
any results? i hate unresolved tech posts!!
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Post by Wongai on May 1, 2015 8:14:13 GMT -8
Hey there folks,
Sorry for going dark for so long. I've been in start-up mode with my new business and we serve customers in the UK and Europe. I've been rocking the night shifts.
The only progress I've made on the camber issue here is to buy new spindles. I can't really afford a whole new kit for the front end, so I'll just check stuff off one by one I guess.
So sorry for my lack of commitment to the forum as of late. I'll try to pick kick in some more energy not that it's driving season.
Thanks all!
Byron
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Post by Brenticon on May 1, 2015 8:17:20 GMT -8
Whooooooa, it's Byron! Yo dood, good to hear from ya!
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