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Post by clay on Jan 14, 2017 18:04:59 GMT -8
I just picked up a late bay fuel injected engine, seems complete and not seized. The problem is that I don't know it's history and the only person who could answer that question has passed on (way too young).
Apart from checking compression and endplay, is there anything I can do to evaluate or test run this engine without dismantling it?
...and yes, I'm more than happy to sell it...
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Post by clay on Jan 14, 2017 20:39:19 GMT -8
Looks to be a late '75 2000cc. Engine #GD010172
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Post by Volktales on Jan 14, 2017 21:45:24 GMT -8
A 1975 spec engine would be an 1800cc. 2 litres were for model year 1976 so late 1975 production would probably be right. If it turns over freely, without funky noises, and with even feeling compression, things might be OK. If you attach it to an appropriate trans bell housing and starter you could at least crank it and do a compression test. If you hooked up the coil to battery power, and sprayed some gas into the throttle body, it should start up and run briefly (enough to hear rods knocking). If you want it to really run, you would need a fuel pump, tank of some kind, return line to the tank of some kind, the computer, double relay and injector resistors and necessary harnesses to power them up. Don't forget the air flow meter as well. If you have all these parts on hand (and you likely do), it should not be that difficult. I would rig up an oil pressure light or gauge while you are at it... Have fun!
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Post by clay on Jan 14, 2017 21:56:56 GMT -8
A 1975 spec engine would be an 1800cc. 2 litres were for model year 1976 so late 1975 production would probably be right. Going by the numbers on the Samba, the engine number indicates it should be a 2 litre with production somewhere in Nov or Dec '75 for the '76 model year. Yeah, compression test is on my list...I've got the bell housing and starter (of course, lol), just need to clear some floor space and make some time to play. We'll see how energetic I get with it, although I do have a shortage of projects and things to do around here . Let me know if you're bored one day...because yeah, I think I do have everything here!
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Post by Volktales on Jan 14, 2017 22:02:46 GMT -8
The nice thing is being an earlier 2 liter, you won't have to listen to the clacking of the hydraulics lifters pumping up. Early ones still had solid lifters. I am still playing with Hondas for now... Can't wait to get back to the VWs!
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Post by Wongai on Jan 16, 2017 12:48:37 GMT -8
I tested my 2L on the stand. It was easy to rig up and game me the confidence to go ahead and install it. I just attached a bell housing to my engine stand and went form there. If your engine stand sits on 3 wheels instead of four, I would suggest bracing it. A fully built out engine running on those three point stands can be pretty unstable. Pretty sure that you have enough parts around there to make 10 engine test stands. If the engine turns out to be screwed, I'd be interested in the FI system. I took off the FI on my vanagon engine, but I plan on going back to FI when I reinstall it in the 74. mostly so that I can be like Russ, but there are other benefits also. B
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Post by clay on Jan 16, 2017 14:05:04 GMT -8
If you want an FI system, I have everything in those boxes I mentioned to you last time you were over. Injectors, all engine components, brainbox, complete engine harness, etc...unless you really want to buy a complete engine just to get the FI.
It's on a 4 wheel stand now but no bellhousing attached, so I was figuring to just clear some floor space (don't laugh too hard here...) and floor test it.
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Post by Wongai on Jan 16, 2017 14:06:54 GMT -8
Awesome Good call! we'll add that FI system to the bundle we are building. Thanks! b
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Post by clay on Jan 16, 2017 14:07:50 GMT -8
Awesome Good call! we'll add that FI system to the bundle we are building. Thanks! b Damn you're quick!!!
You got it.
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Post by camplug on Jan 16, 2017 18:16:28 GMT -8
I've seen your shop. And I'm laughing. Only because I understand the disease. Lol
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Post by clay on Jan 16, 2017 18:49:37 GMT -8
I've seen your shop. And I'm laughing. Only because I understand the disease. Lol The worst part is I have to make room for another Cutlass next week!
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Post by Volktales on Jan 16, 2017 19:19:22 GMT -8
You did boot that Tercel out of there, didn't you???
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Post by Volktales on Jan 16, 2017 19:25:26 GMT -8
"mostly so that I can be like Russ, but there are other benefits also". B You wouldn't want to be like me because then you would have to live with the constant chocolate chip cookie cravings.... MMMM, cookies, drool, drool. The fuel injection conversion was the way to go, just make sure you install a six rib trans at the same time. Also make sure you get ALL the fuel injection goodies as it will make the conversion go much simpler. I will make a big list if you are interested...
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Post by clay on Jan 16, 2017 19:36:01 GMT -8
Yep, Tercel is back on the road and out of my hair!
Please do make the big list so I can get it all together for Byron. Unfortunately I can't help with the 6 rib...sold mine last summer.
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Post by Wongai on Jan 16, 2017 19:49:08 GMT -8
"mostly so that I can be like Russ, but there are other benefits also". B You wouldn't want to be like me because then you would have to live with the constant chocolate chip cookie cravings.... MMMM, cookies, drool, drool. The fuel injection conversion was the way to go, just make sure you install a six rib trans at the same time. Also make sure you get ALL the fuel injection goodies as it will make the conversion go much simpler. I will make a big list if you are interested... A list would be the bomb. I might already have a bunch of the stuff, but i doubt I have it all. Thanks man! Regarding Clay's shop floor...didn't know he had one. :-) B
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