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Post by busaddict on May 21, 2015 16:49:07 GMT -8
I was walking to get my bus today and I came across a father and daughter with her 1991 Vanagon GL station wagon. She had parked and it wouldn't start when she returned, no pop or attempt to start, just rolling over with the faint smell of fuel. Not wanting to get deeply involved with someone's engine, and especially one I had no experience with, we all thought it should head to a local VW shop. The father had owned some VWs in his youth. My question, are there any typical things that would cause this situation? I believe these came with electronic ignition, hall effect?...Hey I'm the first post in the Watercooled Builds
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Post by mitchy965 on May 22, 2015 12:09:38 GMT -8
same typical maladies for all internal combustion engines, gotta have spark,fuel,compression and its all gotta happen on time, woo hoo!2nd poster!
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Post by Brenticon on May 22, 2015 15:21:40 GMT -8
Does air fit into compression or fuel, woohoo, #3
** only posted so I could be third, lol **
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Post by mitchy965 on May 22, 2015 15:59:25 GMT -8
your timing is out
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Post by Volktales on May 22, 2015 21:09:05 GMT -8
Vanagons? What are those??? Like any vehicle, they have their issues... No starts on these models are not confined to any one thing. In no particular order potential problems include: Burnt cap/rotor/coil wire, failed airflow meter, failed coolant temp sensor, broken/corroded computer grounds, computer itself, distributor hall effect switch, ignition switch, plugged fuel filter, shorted injector, shorted oxygen sensor, failed fuel pressure regulator, injection/fuel pump relays, fuel pump itself, major vacuum leak, plugged exhaust, collapsed lifter, distributor popped up off drive, etc, etc. I have seen everyone of these examples causing no starts on Vanagons... Don't forget the possibility of water contaminated fuel; something Vanagons are famous for due to water getting into the fuel tank via cracked/leaking expansion tanks. Also the oxygen sensors in Vanagons are failure prone, but if you disconnect them, the engine will run just fine although you didn't hear that from me...
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Post by tony on May 22, 2015 21:17:16 GMT -8
Where can I get one???
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Post by busaddict on May 22, 2015 22:26:42 GMT -8
Wow Russ, does this mean we're better off with our pre-Vanagon buses? Also, if you were to build your own Vanagon, wouldn't it be better to install an engine minus all the extra doodads?
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Post by busaddict on Jun 19, 2015 14:52:11 GMT -8
Update: I saw the dad on the street the other day. It turns out it was the fuel pump which was quickly fixed at a garage. Re-reading what Russ said about all those water-cooled Vanagon issues, does this mean an early air-cooled Vanagon would be much like a bay window bus to maintain. Or is it just that they are heavier and put a bigger strain on the 2 litre engine?
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Post by Volktales on Jun 19, 2015 21:30:42 GMT -8
Early air cooled Vanagons were much less problematic than the water cooled ones. There are not many of those left however...
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Post by busaddict on Jun 19, 2015 22:17:43 GMT -8
Early air cooled Vanagons were much less problematic than the water cooled ones. There are not many of those left however... They're usually cheaper when they do appear in the classifieds. So you would include anything Vanagon air-cooled from 1980-1983 as being less problematic?
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Post by Volktales on Jun 20, 2015 8:57:20 GMT -8
Much simpler, but their heater/defrosters don't work as good as water cooled versions. The paint was better in the air-cooled era, as they were not as bad for seam rot as the later versions. Good early Vanagons seem much more rare than buses are now...
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Post by busaddict on Jun 20, 2015 10:30:14 GMT -8
Funny that, I'll keep my eyes open
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