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Post by PICTUP on Jan 23, 2015 22:18:27 GMT -8
Great pics Mark. You seem to have a nose for rusty hulks I will leave the IDs for you and Russ to discuss(unless anyone else out there wants to give it a go, nudge, nudge ).
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Post by vwkarl on Jan 23, 2015 22:57:23 GMT -8
The first one is a 64 Pontiac Parisienne the last one is a late 60's or early 70's Volvo
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Post by rustybug61 on Jan 24, 2015 9:47:33 GMT -8
really makes me wonder how and why these are here.??
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Post by Volktales on Jan 24, 2015 19:22:37 GMT -8
I agree with Karl's descriptions...
I have always had a soft spot for Pontiacs.
These Volvo 144's were a very common sight on the streets at one time... Likely early '70's
The other "Datsun", I am not really sure what that is...
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Post by CrazyBrit on Jan 24, 2015 19:41:21 GMT -8
There are more in there - I just need to re-find them and take a few pic's. I would certainly never have recognised that as a Volvo. Strange, because they were very common in the UK when I was a kid. Yet, I managed to recognise the Pontiac, despite having never seen one growing up. I just wish that Split pickup had been better - I would have been up there with a trailer in a flash!
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Post by Volktales on Jan 25, 2015 18:30:01 GMT -8
Are any of those locations accessible by, let say, an Iltis??? I wouldn't mind seeing those in person...
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Post by CrazyBrit on Jan 26, 2015 21:10:09 GMT -8
Not really. The trails are too narrow for a vehicle. However, most are only a short walk from the road, although they are spread out over a decent sized area. I can show you some time if you want.
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Post by Volktales on Jan 26, 2015 22:19:29 GMT -8
It would be interesting for me to see those wrecks in person. That "Datsun" you found has been bugging me, because it looks familiar, but I couldn't place it.... Well I think I figured it out...
Looks to me like a first generation (1966-70), Toyota Corolla.
Like most Corollas, these were once everywhere. Like Mark says, you are more likely to find them dumped in the bush, then on the road today... Toyota likes to brag that they sold more Corollas then any other model of car which is true. It did irritate me when they convinced Guinness to list them as the best selling car in history instead of the Beetle. I think this may have been corrected later. I have always had a thing for Corollas because my friends Mom had one back in the '70's that she bought brand new. It was a '74, but already featured huge rust holes in the fenders by 1980. Her husband stuffed great gobs of bondo into the holes, but never got around to sanding them down once it dried! They drove it for years like that and it ran perfectly until the day it was scrapped due to rust. I also remember my friend climbing up on the roof one day and laughing as the flimsy metal collapsed! His Mom wasn't too pleased about that...
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Post by PICTUP on Jan 26, 2015 22:30:42 GMT -8
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Post by tony on Jan 27, 2015 8:08:20 GMT -8
Russ did you have a thing for corollas or for your friends mom?
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Post by CrazyBrit on Feb 3, 2015 22:03:17 GMT -8
They're single track mountain bike trails. I think you'd really upset people if you tried driving a vehicle down there. I doubt that even an Iltis would fit and those tracks off the road that would fit a vehicle have large ditches dug across their entrances to stop vehicles ripping through the bush. But, the Corolla, Pontiac and Volvo, the old Ford truck (which is really rotten by the way - I took a closer look), the remains of the Split and the front of the Ford truck and the Dodge / Plymouth are all quite close to the road. We could do a trip out there one day and Don could take the Iltis up to Cadillac Flats for a bit of off road time through the garbage that's been dumped out there!
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Post by CrazyBrit on Mar 31, 2015 13:01:47 GMT -8
Another couple of abandoned wrecks for you, spotted on my mountain bike trips. I believe both are domestic, but not exactly certain of what brands they are. The first one is in Doumont near the Plymouth / Dodge. The second is in Heartlands near Saanich.
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Post by Volktales on Apr 1, 2015 18:23:33 GMT -8
Ok, the first one looks easy. That appears to be a 1967 Chevrolet Chevelle. A low spec 4-door, it is still hanging on to it's lowly six cylinder engine.
These cars were very popular in their day and the more desirable two door models are a common site at car shows today.
The second car is much harder to identify, but I think I got it figured out... It is a Ford, but not one from this side of the Atlantic. That wreck is actually a British built Ford Consul of the 1956-1962 era. These were built in Dagenham, and were known as the British "big" Fords. The Consul was the cheapest four cylinder model, the more expensive Zephyr and Zodiac had sixes. Although somewhat dull in appearance, these Fords were innovative for their time. This was Ford's first unit body construction, and the first car to use the now common MacPherson strut suspension. They also used hydraulic clutches, something the Americans wouldn't do for another generation... Like many British cars, they were once popular in Victoria...
Seen those before, Mark???
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Post by CrazyBrit on Apr 1, 2015 19:59:49 GMT -8
Seen those before, Mark??? I think that my Grandfather might have owned one. I'm way too young. I'm not big on the boring Brit' cars, but I do know most of the sports cars. The registration plate in the photo dates this car to pre 1963.
Starting in late 1962, the last letter of the registration plate (licence plate) denoted the model year in which the vehicle was registered in the UK. Thus my first bus, a 1963 Canterbury Pitt bore an A suffix - I don't remember the full plate offhand. My Ghia (1971) was registered as APP372J and my bug (1973) SCK574L My 1983 Mk 1 Golf GTi was a bit of an anomaly and was registered in 1984 after they ran out of suffixes and moved over to prefixes. I think it may have sat in a dealership for some time after they started selling the "new" Mk2. It bore the plate A394JPB and my 1990 Scirocco was H960TNV. The registration plate is individual to the vehicle in the UK, so when you sell your car, the plates go with it. This makes it really easy to identify your old car as it drives past you! The suffix and prefix system is easy to understand once you are used to it, but omission of certain letters (I, O, Q, U, Z) due to their similarity to numbers or other letters makes it a little difficult to determine the exact year, unless you are familiar with the system.
The plates changed in 1973 from the lovely old silver or white on black, to black on retro-reflective yellow on the rear and black on retro-reflective white on the front. They changed the letter suffixes in 2000 or 2001 to numbers denoting the year and whether the vehicle was first registered in the first or second half of the year. So, a car with 08, would be the first half of 2008, whereas 58 would be the second half of 2008.
Despite the letter Q having been dropped from the regular plates (likely due to it's similarity to the letter O and number 0, there were some Q prefixed cars. This signified a kit car, or a rebuilt salvage vehicle.
So, now when you are reading a UK based car magazine, you will have an idea of the year of the vehicle.
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Post by Brenticon on Apr 2, 2015 16:59:29 GMT -8
Drove past a pile of wrecks up extension rd. They've cleared a bunch of land up there, and sittin at the bottom of a cliff has to be 1/2 cars or more. Anyone wanna go scout me out this weekend?
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