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Post by Rob Sannes on Sept 12, 2019 16:57:33 GMT -8
Played around a bit tonight and made a new paper insulator is what I'm guessing. Dug around and found a what appears to be a new cap, rotor and points set. Ready to try out. I'm leaving it in original paint for now. I don't want to do anything too drastic to a cool vintage speed part.
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Post by Rob Sannes on Oct 9, 2019 20:12:10 GMT -8
Got an update from the machine shop today. Neil says my 2 cranks and their rods are good as well as my cases. He is cleaning boreing the stock case for the 90.5's and tapping for full flow. He says the pistons and cylinders are good but will get a hone and the heads rebuilt. He says he is poking at it so hopefully soon.
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Post by Rob Sannes on Dec 14, 2019 21:02:55 GMT -8
Well just got back from Victoria to pick up my parts. I now have everything back. In the11th hour I was told my stock flywheel was not useable as it was pitted at the sealing surface. I reached out and Russ and thought he could set me up with a flywheel but we both were just super busy and couldn't meet up so I grabbed another rusty flywheel and headed down. The flywheel I took down today was not useable either so Neil put a ready sleve on flywheel 1 trimmed it down and it's good to go now. After a couple hours of watching I loaded up with a trunk full of parts and a EMPTY wallet. This was an exspensive day. I did get complete rundown on all the specs for the 2 engines and it is detailed.
The 2017cc the valves were reground and old springs re used. The pistons were cleaned and the cylinder were honed. No machining on the case,crank or rods, just cleaning. My FK 8 cam will be re used with new modified Engle lifters. The fly wheel was resurfaced.
The 1776 required a bit more work but was straight foward. The case was bored to 90.5 drilled and tapped for full flow and alighin bored .20 oversize but thrust is standard size. Heads got new exhaust valves and new HD single springs and intakes got a grind and lapped in. Crank was .20/.20 over when I got it but was not re ground this time. The rods also just checked and cleaned and are ready to go. This one will get a new engle W100 cam and modified engle lifters.
I need to gather some odds and sods to finish the 1776 but not that much.
Pictures tomorrow of all the goodies.
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Post by Rob Sannes on Dec 15, 2019 14:11:43 GMT -8
Well just got back from Victoria to pick up my parts. I now have everything back. In the11th hour I was told my stock flywheel was not useable as it was pitted at the sealing surface. I reached out and Russ and thought he could set me up with a flywheel but we both were just super busy and couldn't meet up so I grabbed another rusty flywheel and headed down. The flywheel I took down today was not useable either so Neil put a ready sleve on flywheel 1 trimmed it down and it's good to go now. After a couple hours of watching I loaded up with a trunk full of parts and a EMPTY wallet. This was an exspensive day. I did get complete rundown on all the specs for the 2 engines and it is detailed. The 2017cc the valves were reground and old springs re used. The pistons were cleaned and the cylinder were honed. No machining on the case,crank or rods, just cleaning. My FK 8 cam will be re used with new modified Engle lifters. The fly wheel was resurfaced. The 1776 required a bit more work but was straight foward. The case was bored to 90.5 drilled and tapped for full flow and alighin bored .20 oversize but thrust is standard size. Heads got new exhaust valves and new HD single springs and intakes got a grind and lapped in. Crank was .20/.20 over when I got it but was not re ground this time. The rods also just checked and cleaned and are ready to go. This one will get a new engle W100 cam and modified engle lifters. I need to gather some odds and sods to finish the 1776 but not that much. Pictures tomorrow of all the goodies. stock valve hemicut stock vw castings bigger valve reshaped 51cc chambers pile of bearings. 2 sets standard rod. 2 sets double thrust cam 1 set standard main I set of 1st over bore main journal standard thrust. stock rod. stroke clearenced stock vw rods 12.5 lb. Flywheel stock 69mm crank on the right welded rod journals on the 78.4 stroke on the left. 90.5 B pistons on the left stock pin height 90.5 on the right. case for the 1776 the case for the 2017 case is stroke clearenced and all the 8mm studs are spot faced for larger washers to increase torque. This will help prevent case movement.
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Post by Volktales on Dec 15, 2019 18:47:49 GMT -8
Somebody's going to be busy in the next while...
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Post by Rob Sannes on Dec 15, 2019 19:05:01 GMT -8
Somebody's going to be busy in the next while... Hope I have time. I will need to get a second job to repay my son's college fund I needed to pay for the machinest. All joking aside I hope to get at it soon. Russ what would your go to sealers be. Back on my last one I used gaskacinch and a little peratex aviation and a silicone like ultra black. Are you familiar with loktite 518? I have seen online and heard good things about it.
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Post by Volktales on Dec 15, 2019 21:49:57 GMT -8
Not familiar with that product. I generally used the liquid Permatex for years, but some have said the formula is not like it was. My "at home" container is ancient and thick, but I still use it...
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Post by Rob Sannes on Dec 21, 2019 17:47:54 GMT -8
So I had a little time to mess around with the parts pile today. I forget to take pictures as I'm going so use your imagination on some of this stuff I wanted to take a inventory of what I did and didn't have and start doing some mockup. I gave my studs a clean and made sure I had all 16. I wanted to check the new lifters and make sure I had clearance. these lifter bores are stock and the k8 is kind of a bigger cam but not at the lobes since I will be using 1.4 rockers. I do have .045 clarence. like wise I checked the oil pump to cam bolt clearance and set the end play for the cam thrust. checked the main bearings to take a look at the oil gallery and bearing alignment. I got a package 2 new sets of rings. these are Grant rings. I have a set of Total seal 2nd rings and am up in the air about using them. I have a while still to think about it. I was taking a closer look at the rods and did hang them on the crank to check clearance. plastigauge and feeler gauges say rods will be fine. the rods are matched to the pistons for length and pin height. More to come, the next challenge will be to put the front bearings on the crank and install the timing gears set crank endplay and such.
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Post by Volktales on Dec 21, 2019 18:05:46 GMT -8
Well you are getting more accomplished then I have been lately... Oh wait, the oven timer is going off again...
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Post by stude on Dec 22, 2019 10:23:51 GMT -8
I used the red silicone under the barrels and shims and push rod tubes with good success are you considering using the copper head gasket and keeping compression down. Case was bored .020 over crank .020/.020 under right thanks for taking the time to post I was wondering how Victoria went. T
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Post by Rob Sannes on Dec 22, 2019 13:11:12 GMT -8
I used the red silicone under the barrels and shims and push rod tubes with good success are you considering using the copper head gasket and keeping compression down. Case was bored .020 over crank .020/.020 under right thanks for taking the time to post I was wondering how Victoria went. T My 2017 case is standard. My 78.4 crank is .010 over on the mains. Standard on the rods. No copper gaskets or shims will be used with the 90.5 B pistons. This combo will give me about a 9.25 to1 CR give or take. the 1776 build will be on a .020 over size case. 020/.020 crank.
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Post by Rob Sannes on Dec 22, 2019 15:37:22 GMT -8
well back at it for a while today did the lifter mod and checked again for fit and clearance. After that I checked end play looks like its still right around .004 with this shim stack. I will double check again once before I put the top end on. Was looking at the ratio rockers I plan to use, these are autocraft 1.4 need a little clean up but still in great shape. . Last task was to get the timing gears on so time to dust off the hot plate things went fast once the gears were hot. but it all fit . Time to call it quits for now. So bottom end has been mocked up it spins nice and I think I can give it a last good clean and the and button it up and get some studs on. Cylinders an top end next. Got to check the deck and rocker geometry see if its still what I remember.
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Post by owdlvr on Dec 24, 2019 14:08:39 GMT -8
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Post by Rob Sannes on Dec 25, 2019 19:48:09 GMT -8
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Post by Rob Sannes on Feb 23, 2020 16:57:46 GMT -8
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